Gall Week DC Outing on Saturday Sept 10 2022

Creating this to coordinate and track for a DC area Gall Week outing on Saturday Sept 10 2022.

Location: Kutner Park/Katherine Johnson Middle School, Fairfax City, VA
Date: Sept 10, 2022
Time: 10am ET

Directions
Since there may be kids soccer games on the soccer fields it is probably best if we plan to meet in the adjacent middle school parking lot. So to that end we will meet here:

Katherine Johnson Middle School Fairfax VA main parking lot
https://goo.gl/maps/MToGXHXRnZ2DQHtS9
38°51'32.6"N 77°19'39.7"W


The original thread was started here https://www.inaturalist.org/posts/69533-gall-week-is-almost-here-local-events-and-a-webinar

Possible Locations That I Know Of (depends on how many folks we get and how accessible the location needs to be)

  • Kutner Park - Fairfax City - this is my local gall haunt and has the densest Oak Gall diversity of anywhere I have ever been and (thanks to selection bias :) ) is a world-wide gall hot spot. It is a small ~15 acre park that is easy to access and walk around in
  • Sully Woodlands (Western Fairfax County) - this is another excellent spot but it it is harder to access (further out and not as accessible, need to be able and comfortable with navigating long grass and non-paved slopes). A potential bonus with this one is that if some or all of the attendees are interested in a much larger and more diverse habitat there is a lot more here.

I am open to anywhere that has appropriate habitat and do love to explore new places. I tend to spend a lot of time in the same core areas so do not have much experience outside of central and western Fairfax County.

@izafarr @imasongster @carrieseltzer @zdanko @esummerbell

由使用者 jeffdc jeffdc2022年09月08日 15:58 所貼文

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Is Saturday the only day available - that is, not Sunday?

發佈由 zdanko 超過 1 年 前

Sunday has a 50% probability of rain, Saturday looks totally dry. I'm open to Sunday if you're willing to risk the chance of rain!

I'm also up for either location! I'm curious to see this magical oak gall hotspot, but also up for more woodsy non-paved adventures. Jeff, do either of these locations have good populations of hickories? Caryomyia are particular favorites of mine. Hackberries would present lots of gall opportunities too.

發佈由 esummerbell 超過 1 年 前

On either day, morning/early afternoon is the best time for me

發佈由 esummerbell 超過 1 年 前

There are limited hickories at both locations. Kutner has scattered C glabra and C tomentosa, Sully has scattered C glabra, C tomentosa, and C cordiformis (in the wetter areas). No Celtis at Kutner. Sully has some Celtis but not a ton. Sully has overall way more diversity but it is a much larger investment of time, tick prep, and exercise. Sully has a ton of Solidago and Euthamia as well as other forbs.

I can do either day as well. I am also, rarely, stopped by rain.

發佈由 jeffdc 超過 1 年 前

Okay, looks like I can't do Saturday...

發佈由 zdanko 超過 1 年 前

Unfortunately the weather forecast is looking more and more rainy on Sunday.

發佈由 jeffdc 超過 1 年 前

I'm up for anything anywhere on Saturday; Sunday I'm out of town. Either way, if we nail down time and location soon I can get a note out to the DC area Google group to attract a few more folks.

發佈由 dbarber 超過 1 年 前

I think based on weather Saturday is our best bet (sorry @zdanko :( ). As for time I think I heard AM to early afternoon. So we can meet at 10am.

If the group is small and able Sully is more diverse overall but is not trivial to physically negotiate and a "full tour" of the main highlights can take 4 hours or more (I was there 6 hours this past Monday). We can split it into 2 parts if people are interested in less or more, but it requires comfort with long grass (think ticks) and a lot of walking and some negotiation of areas with little to no trail. Parking is roadside only. https://goo.gl/maps/ibhDuocToiRdPmpP8

Kutner Park is a manageable suburban park, it is flat, there is parking, and there is low chance of ticks. It is small so can be covered in a couple of hours. I did a comprehensive survey last Saturday in 2.5 hour blocks but was being quite thorough. https://goo.gl/maps/WTuvPQ3YbJAGdRra6

發佈由 jeffdc 超過 1 年 前

It's okay, this just means we'll have to do another walk sometime soon ;)

發佈由 zdanko 超過 1 年 前

Let’s do Kutner Park this time, that might be easier for coordinating a group! And 10AM works for me

發佈由 esummerbell 超過 1 年 前

OK I'll get the word out! See you at Kutner Park at 10am!

發佈由 dbarber 超過 1 年 前

Since there may be kids soccer games on the soccer fields it is probably best if we plan to meet in the adjacent middle school parking lot. So to that end we will meet here:

Katherine Johnson Middle School Fairfax VA main parking lot
https://goo.gl/maps/MToGXHXRnZ2DQHtS9
38°51'32.6"N 77°19'39.7"W

發佈由 jeffdc 超過 1 年 前

I updated the main entry above with all of the details.

發佈由 jeffdc 超過 1 年 前

Perfect, see you all tomorrow!

發佈由 esummerbell 超過 1 年 前

OK, sent email to Google group with all details. Tagging top gall observers who might be in the DC area this weekend: @ana_kaahanui @matthewbeziat @potomacriverannie @treichard @jimbrighton @mileszhang @ronwertz @imasongster

發佈由 dbarber 超過 1 年 前

Have fun galling, everyone! Sorry I can't make it.

發佈由 carrieseltzer 超過 1 年 前

Running a bit late, will be there around 10:20! Feel free to start without me and I’ll find you guys in the park

發佈由 esummerbell 超過 1 年 前

Ha ha, I’m running late too – – ETA about 10 past

發佈由 dbarber 超過 1 年 前

Ok

發佈由 jeffdc 超過 1 年 前

It is quite crowded. Drive up all the way to the back of the parking lot.

發佈由 jeffdc 超過 1 年 前

I now have 743 photos from today to clean up and post 😂

發佈由 esummerbell 超過 1 年 前

See I told you it was a gall hot spot!

發佈由 jeffdc 超過 1 年 前

Thank you Jeff for getting us out to that amazing little spot, and in excellent company. I don't think I've EVER walked quite so slowly :-)

發佈由 dbarber 超過 1 年 前

Wow, that's really saying something, @dbarber! :-D

發佈由 carrieseltzer 超過 1 年 前

On the bad news front, I got confirmation yesterday that the City of Fairfax is going to spend millions of "pandemic relief" funds to at least partially ruin that spot. They are going to tear up the grass fields and install a huge swath of artificial turf and install huge light towers. So sad and frustrating. The reasoning given is that kids might get hurt playing on the grass field. Amazing that we have not yet gone extinct if kids are indeed this fragile!

It is depressing news when you see it happening elsewhere, it is tragedy when it happens to your local refuge.

發佈由 jeffdc 超過 1 年 前

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