Illinois Botanists Big Year 2019的日誌

2020年01月26日

Illinois Botanists Big Year 2019 Results!

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oof, it's close! Our top two competitors by number of plant species observed in Illinois in a single year are:

Derek Ziomber (@dziomber) with 1,149 species

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Jared Gorrell (@wildlandblogger) with 1,136 species


As of 26 January 2020, @dziomber had 1,672 "research grade" (RG) observations of 1,149 species and @wildlandblogger had made 4,202 RG observations of 1,136 plant species for 2019. Congrats to you both! This year was a close race between our top two botanists and a bit nerve-wracking near the end as the species list just kept growing and growing! The data on iNaturalist are continually changing as new IDs come in, so these are just a snapshot. They each have over 100 more species that just didn't get confirmed.



Here they are in southern Illinois: Jared Gorrell (@wildlandblogger) on the left and Derek Ziomber (@dziomber) on the right. Thanks to Jeff Skrentny (@skrentnyjeff) for the photo. A phenomenal job by these two botanizers, both of whom broke 1000 research grade plant species for the first time in Illinois Botanists Big Year history, and who were actually numbers #13 and #14 by number of RG plant species observed worldwide. And that's compared to people who live in mega biodiversity hotspots like South Africa and southern California.

2019 Illinois Botanists Big Year Stats

4,040 observers
58,000 research grade observations of plants
1,930 species
1,470 identifiers

Most Species

1. @dziomber – 1,149
2. @wildlandblogger – 1,136
3. @sanguinaria33 – 881
4. @sedge – 817
5. @elfaulkner – 769
6. @johnhboldt – 758
7. @skrentnyjeff – 711
8. @bouteloua – 527
9. @kkucera – 489
10. @missgreen – 372

Most Observations

1. @wildlandblogger – 4,202
2. @johnhboldt – 3,626
3. @dziomber – 1,672
4. @sanguinaria33 – 1,583
5. @sedge – 1,416
6. @bouteloua – 1,416
7. @skrentnyjeff – 1,304
8. @elfaulkner – 1,191
9. @taco2000 – 1,044
10. @kkucera – 878

The Sedgehead

Most species in the genus Carex:
@dziomber with 63 species and @sedge close behind with 62!

The Grassmaster

Most species within the family Poaceae:
@dziomber with 77 species!

The Sporophyte

Most species outside of flowering plants, Magnoliophyta):
@wildlandblogger with 71 species!

The 100 Club:

botanizers who made research grade observations of over 100 species of plants in Illinois in 2019: @andrewhipp @andrewstpaul @bouteloua @brdnrdr @brendanrattin @carolt-80 @conniecowan @d_coulter @dziomber @eattaway92 @elfaulkner @eriko @ewarden @geodude365 @grantfessler @ja5 @jackassgardener @jakeskee @jawinget @jenhugstrees @joelmc @johnhboldt @k2018lena @kennedy9094 @kkucera @matt167 @maureenclare @missgreen @mn2010 @naturalist_glenn @outdoorsie @owenkathriner @plantdruid @prairiehobbit @psweet @randyshonkwiler @redadmiral98 @rgraveolens @rin_nd @rtriveline @sanguinaria33 @sedge @skrentnyjeff @ssinn @stocksdale @taco2000 @tararat @timfelinski0251 @ty-sharrow @vvoelker @whimbrelbirder @wildernessbarbie @wildlandblogger @woodridgejeff

Most IDs

Most identifications for other people (Needs ID & Research Grade observations of plants in Illinois in 2019):
@mcaple with 9,040 IDs!
Followed up by @evan8 (8,317) and @wildlandblogger (7,325).

Most Improving IDs

That is the number of times they were first-to-ID a species that the community subsequently agreed with: @mcaple again with 2,293!
Followed up by @bouteloua (902) and @prairiehobbit (783).

Species New to Illinois on iNat

Dozens of species new to iNat in Illinois this year. A few listed below:

Nice Photos

Just three of my favorite photos from the year.
I posted lots more photos on our Facebook group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/illinoisbotanistsbigyear/


Collinsia verna by @jsatler in Jackson County: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/24966638



Floerkea proserpinacoides by @kkucera in Cook County: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/25226265



Symphyotrichum novae-angliae by @musicmanz in McHenry County: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/33300530

Awards Ceremony

If you caught this post before 2PM on Sunday, January 26th and are in the Chicago area, join us to congratulate our top botanizers at the Illinois Native Plant Society gathering this afternoon. Details here: http://ill-inps.org/northeast-chapter/events/

and finally...

Don't forget to join the 2020 project:

https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/illinois-botanists-big-year-2020
(click the Join button in the top right)

Thanks to all for sharing your plant explorations this year!
Happy botanizing in 2020!

@bouteloua (cassi saari)
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2019年12月31日

Cameras down, time to ID!

Unless you're up for some raucous night botany this evening, it's pretty much pencils down for the 2019 Illinois Botanists Big Year observers!

Help Identify

Observers now have until January 15th, 2020 to upload their observations.

The winners will be announced at the Northeast Chapter of the Illinois Native Plant Society's Annual Chapter Meeting & Book Swap, taking place:
Sunday, January 26th, 2020 from 2PM–5PM at Thatcher Woods in River Forest, IL
More details on that here, including how to RSVP: http://ill-inps.org/northeast-chapter/events

Thanks to so many helpful identifiers who brought our huge backload of unidentified observations from around 6000 down to just a handful.

As of today we have an astounding 39,490 observations that still "Need ID". Can you help with that backlog?

Try filtering by species you're familiar with, narrow in on your county of interest, or only show observations IDed a coarse rank, like "class". Here are the top species that need ID.

General help ID link:

Help Identify

If you want to focus on identifying observations by the top two observers (@wildlandblogger and @dziomber), here's a special link for that.

由使用者 bouteloua bouteloua2019年12月31日 23:35 所貼文 | 3 評論 | 留下評論

2019年12月21日

Almost 6000 observations with no ID at all!

Eek -- there are currently 5863 observations made in Illinois in 2019 that have no label at all!

Link to help identify: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/identify?iconic_taxa=unknown&order_by=random&place_id=35&year=2019

Ways to help with the backlog:

  • Add an ID, even if a "coarse" one like kingdom or family can help bring it to the attention of identifiers of these groups
  • Mark as captive/cultivated if appropriate (keyboard shortcut is x
  • Use the Frequently Used Responses for issues that commonly pop up

It's a common point of confusion with new users why someone would label an observation with an "obvious" identification like "flowering plant" or "insect", so feel free to point them this way if you get pushback: https://www.inaturalist.org/pages/help#coarse-ids

Why do people keep adding "obvious" IDs like "Plants" or "Fungi"?
This usually happens when you did not add an ID yourself, so your observation is sitting in uncategorized limbo. By adding a coarse ID of "Plants" or "Fungi" these identifiers are making it easier for other people to find your observation. Many experts use our taxonomic filters to focus on their taxon of expertise, so if you post an observation of a plant with no identification, these experts will never find it. People adding coarse IDs are almost always trying to help you get more specific IDs.
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2019年11月07日

Quality control help needed

Below are links to species that were newly documented for Illinois on iNaturalist in 2019. Your help is needed to:

  • Mark observations as "not wild" (cultivated/planted) when appropriate
  • Doublecheck identifications

I always do some QC myself, but with the competition neck-in-neck this year there needs to be a little extra scrutiny. Can you volunteer a little time to help out?

In the "Not in common" section, there are two columns on the right. The first column shows observations that were recorded on iNaturalist before 2019, but not in 2019. It actually serves as kind of a hitlist as well, i.e. what haven't we found yet in 2019 that might be easily documented since it has been found and confirmed before? The second column are species that were found in 2019 but not years prior. I've been going through these every other month or so. Usually these are new documentations for iNaturalist in Illinois (exciting!). However, they are sometimes actually planted organisms that the observer forgot to mark as planted. Other times they are misidentifications.

If you really want to get into it, you can remove "&quality_grade=research" from the search filters at the top of the page and go through the Needs ID observations too. This compare tool is really handy. You can use all the search filters listed here to compare different sets of data.

Another task that would be really helpful is to download the current list of observations and compare the species found with a list of species that have been previously documented in Illinois.

As always, here's the general link to help identify too:

»Help Identify

thanks!
cassi

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2019年10月13日

How to help identify ILBBY observations

Short version: Log into iNaturalist and go here! Click one of the photos to view more details and add or confirm an identification.

+++ Help Identify +++


Long version: No observation makes it into the Illinois Botanists Big Year (ILBBY) or gets passed on to the Global Biodiversity Information Facility (GBIF) without at least two identifications. Making IDs is a great way to learn, see the diversity of species found in an area, contribute to science, and get to know other naturalists out there observing.

The Identify page on the iNaturalist website makes IDing really streamlined, especially once you start using the keyboard shortcuts. You can access the Identify page from the website by clicking the Identify link in the main header. Then click any image to view it in the "pop-up" modal in order to view the photos larger, add an ID, or see other details. There is unfortunately no similar quick and easy way right now to add identifications from the apps, so it's recommended to use a laptop or desktop computer.

Check out this useful video tutorial for using the Identify page on the iNaturalist website:

Here is a URL filtered to identify plants in Illinois observed in 2019: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/identify?iconic_taxa=Plantae%2Cunknown&order_by=random&place_id=35&year=2019 I recommend bookmarking it so that it's easy to access. You can use the filters on the Identify page to show exactly the type of observations you're interested in.

Even a broad identification can be really helpful. So if you know it's in the aster family (Asteraceae), but not which species exactly, you can add an ID at family level. That way people looking to help ID observations in that family can find it easier.

Have questions about making identifications on iNaturalist? This Identification Etiquette post answers a lot of common questions. You can also ask below or start a new topic on the iNaturalist Forum.

由使用者 bouteloua bouteloua2019年10月13日 23:39 所貼文 | 2 評論 | 留下評論

2019年10月09日

ILBBY October 2019 Update & Illinois Native Plant Society Get-together in Chicago

Stats

It's October 9th, flowers are just about winked out, and the Illinois Botanists Big Year's got:


3,247 observers (+1,468 since our last update)
43,981 research grade observations of plants (+18,100)
1,705 species (+381)
1,270 identifiers (+415)

The top 10 leaderboard, botanizers with the most research grade species of plants in Illinois in 2019 are:

  1. @dziomber — 896
  2. @wildlandblogger — 857
  3. @sanguinaria33 — 807
  4. @sedge — 679
  5. @elfaulkner — 651
  6. @johnhboldt — 599
  7. @skrentnyjeff — 571
  8. @kkucera — 478
  9. @bouteloua — 470
  10. @missgreen — 352

The 100 Club: Since our last update, a bunch more botanizers have made research grade observations of over 100 species of plants in Illinois this year: @maureenclare, @redadmiral98, @timfelinski0251, @eriko, @matt167, @jenhugstrees, @eattaway92, @plantdruid, @randyshonkwiler, @rin_nd, @k2018lena, @carolt-80, @joelmc, @ewarden, @ty-sharrow, @mn2010, @brendanrattin, @wildernessbarbie, @vvoelker, @rtriveline, and @rgraveolens! Whoo!

New to following the ILBBY project are @eriko, @esp, @jenhugstrees, @cleaarbogast, @jfaupel, @rlammann, @kennedy9094, @naturalist_zeb, and @taco2000. Welcome!

New to observing plants in Illinois on iNaturalist are @apncvisitor, @ilovestuff, @illinoiswildflowers, @sandijustad, @zach_skuby, @timmiller1, @tonyfleming, @treeguy1234, @alex1231, @ralph54, @samau, @paulfrederiksen, @pavoss64, @jannebrown, @goulet, @ebeobservations, @kerohling, @rarecatsnake, @kassiehenrikson, @biobirdnerd, @iacampoverde, @sivicek, @jessicahertel, @reyfoxx, @hernajos110, @naturelady23, @steinhauer, and @angeldelacruz2ndhour among many others. If you want to get Illinois Botanists Big Year updates, you can join the project here.

Plant Pic Picks

Don't forget to favorite observations to highlight good photos or cool finds!
In no particular order, some lovely plant pics by Illinois botanizers:

Lobelia siphilitica by @jwmoonflower in Coles County:

Pinky Monotropa uniflora by @kennedy9094 in Cook County:

This bouquet of Scirpus cyperinus by @wildlandblogger in Johnson County:

Chasmanthium latifolium by @illinoiswildflowers in Champaign County:

Ageratina altissima by @psweet in Lake County:

Elymus hystrix by @ralph54 in Kane County:

Help Identify

As always, please help your fellow botanists, when yr able, to identify/confirm their observations. Try sorting by "new users" or "random" to mix it up!

Species New to Illinois on iNat

Continue to keep an eye on these links below for any new documentations in 2019. I commented on a few new ones that folks like @wildlandblogger, @sedge, @vvoelker, @labaird, @plantdruid, and @lwalther have found since our last update. Great work!

And finally, coming up not this but next Friday:

Wink & Swillhelm at The Garage Bar

Friday, October 18th, 2019
starting at 6:30PM and going to 9:30PMish or whenever
at The Garage Bar & Sandwiches, 6154 N Milwaukee Ave, Chicago (Norwood Park)

Come meet and hang with other local botany and ecology enthusiasts at The Garage Bar in northwest Chicago! We'll be in the room upstairs.

Facebook event for people who like that: https://www.facebook.com/events/2403057686577194/

Pretty informal, come whenever and no need to RSVP nor to be a current INPS member.
Though you should join! :) https://ill-inps.org/northeast-chapter/

Hope to see you there!

由使用者 bouteloua bouteloua2019年10月09日 21:38 所貼文 | 4 評論 | 留下評論

2019年07月21日

Hot dog, it's the July Update of the Illinois Botanists Big Year

Stats

It's July 20th, it's been hot, it's been humid, and the ILBBY's racked up:


1,779 observers (+294 since last month's update)
25,881 research grade observations of plants (+5,314)
1,324 species (+184)
855 identifiers (+128)

Now things are getting exciting, with @dziomber (Derek) jumping into first place in front of @wildlandblogger (Jared). Derek has 655 species while Jared is at 650.

The top 10 leaderboard, botanizers with the most research grade species of plants in Illinois in 2019 are:

  1. @dziomber — 655
  2. @wildlandblogger — 650
  3. @sanguinaria33 — 537
  4. @kkucera — 445
  5. @johnhboldt — 432
  6. @skrentnyjeff — 422
  7. @bouteloua — 397
  8. @elfaulkner — 388
  9. @sedge — 376
  10. @missgreen — 321

In the map below, everyone's observations are in grey, while dziomber is teal and wildlandblogger is orange. It's a bit rectangular in the Chicago area due to the way obscured geoprivacy works on iNaturalist. More info about that here.

Since last month's update, another seven botanizers have made research grade observations of over 100 species of plants in Illinois this year: @d_coulter @naturalist_glenn @outdoorsie the mysterious @prairiehobbit @psweet @stocksdale and @woodridgejeff Whoo! Just shy of 100 are @matt167 @eriko @wildernessbarbie @carolt-80 and @eattaway92.

New to following the ILBBY project are @illinois_joy, @jingyilu, and @michelle894. Welcome!

New to observing plants in Illinois on iNaturalist are @anthony438 @audreychung @dsbarry @gloriao147 @jenniferannifer @kcramp @marissaannis @maryh74 @nichole47 @profspinifera @samib3108 and @teriknaff, among many others. If you want to stay apprised of Illinois Botanists Big Year updates, you can join the project here.

Plant Pic Picks

Don't forget to favorite observations to highlight good photos or cool finds!

Lovely portrait of a Verbena hastata (blue vervain) by @psweet in Lake County:
Beckmannia syzigachne (American slough grass) by @johnhboldt in Cook County:
Fuzzy Aphyllon ludovicianum (Louisiana bloomgreat) by @elfaulkner in Lee County:
Calopogon tuberosus (grasspink orchids) by @randyshonkwiler in Cook County:
Angelica atropurpurea (great angelica) waving hello by @redadmiral98 in Lee County:
Carex leptalea by @sedge in McHenry County:

Help Identify

As always, please help your fellow botanists, when yr able, to identify/confirm their observations. Try sorting by "new users" or "random" to mix it up!

Species New to Illinois on iNat

And keep an eye on these links below for any new documentations in 2019. I commented on a few new ones that folks like @andrewhipp @dziomber @johnhboldt @skrentnyjeff and @woodridgejeff have found since our last update. Great work!
由使用者 bouteloua bouteloua2019年07月21日 03:25 所貼文 | 10 評論 | 留下評論

2019年06月29日

Sedgeheaven: June Update of the Illinois Botanists Big Year

Stats

It's June 29th, it's summer, it's sedges-are-identifiable season, and the ILBBY 2019's got:


1,485 observers (+495 since last month's update)
20,567 research grade observations of plants (+7,191)
1,140 species (+310)
727 identifiers (+209)

New to following the ILBBY project are @alefringhouse24, @irenejhf, @jhoekstra, @rozhelfand, and @stocksdale. Welcome!

New to observing plants in Illinois on iNaturalist are @alex1093 @anafae @awesomeeagle @brett02 @carrie206 @charitycat @chase1789_xd @chazmw @christianelliott1 @christianpuka @cole65 @dka723 @g10078 @gracecomerford @jayeeinin @jindra @johnlseale @katmuth @kilbourngreenhouse @magnetgrrl @maritzav1 @mcvozenilek @michelle894 @neonicarus @nicole646 @nlee @nrthwoods @redadmiral98 @reedgarnett @scotthorlock @sdelisi @spiderwort91 @yet2019 and @zebulen27, among many others! If you want to stay apprised of Illinois Botanists Big Year updates, you can join the project here.

Since last month's update, seven more botanizers have observed over 100 species of plants in Illinois this year: @andrewstpaul @elfaulkner @grantfessler @jackassgardener @kennedy9094 @ssinn and @whimbrelbirder. Whoo! Just shy of 100 are @d_coulter @psweet @prairiehobbit and @stocksdale. Next time y'all'll all be over the 100 mark I'm sure! :)

On the leaderboard for most research grade species of plants in Illinois in 2019 are:

  1. @wildlandblogger — 564
  2. @dziomber — 457
  3. @sanguinaria33 — 354
  4. @sedge — 349
  5. @johnhboldt — 341
  6. @kkucera — 327
  7. @skrentnyjeff — 316
  8. @bouteloua — 296
  9. @elfaulkner — 223
  10. @missgreen — 221

The most observose species in June 2019 so far have been common milkweed (Asclepias syriaca), Ohio spiderwort (Tradescantia ohiensis / seriously who calls this bluejacket??), yarrow (Achillea millefolium), red clover (Trifolium pratense), foxglove beardtongue (Penstemon digitalis), crown vetch (Securigera varia), and white wild indigo (Baptisia alba).

On Our Hitlist

As a community we still have somehow not observed these plants yet in 2019. Anyone up for a focused scavenger hunt?

  • fringed heartwort (Ricciocarpos natans)
  • gingko (Gingko biloba) — which occasionally escapes cultivation
  • Canada yew (Taxus canadensis) — some say these are here on iNat but just need to be confirmed
  • juniper haircap moss (Polytrichum juniperinum)
  • grasspink orchids (Calopogon tuberosus) - @sanguinaria33 catch up!
  • colicroot (Aletris farinosa)
  • American sweetflag (Acorus americanus)
  • yellow foxtail (Setaria pumila)
  • barnyardgrass (Echinochloa crus-galli)
  • yellow nutsedge (Cyperus esculentus)
  • rice cutgrass (Leersia oryzoides)
  • quackgrass (Elymus repens)
  • sneezeweed (Helenium autumnale) — easy vegetative ID!
  • tall boneset (Eupatorium altissimum)
  • grass-leaved goldenrod (Euthamia graminifolia)
  • early, elm, bluestem goldenrods (Solidago juncea, S. ulmifolia, S. caesia)
  • smooth blue aster (Symphyotrichum laeve)
  • partridge pea (Chamaecrista fasciculata)
  • velvetleaf (Abutilon theophrasti) — this is definitely in someone's garden
  • common St. Johnswort (Hypericum perforatum)
  • American lotus (Nelumbo lutea)
  • spotted spurge (Euphorbia maculata)

Plant Pic Picks

Don't forget to favorite observations to highlight good photos or cool finds!

Violet wood sorrel (Oxalis violacea) pretty in purple; its starburst-flavored leaves hidden below by @sanguinaria33 in DuPage County:

Glowy budding quinine (Parthenium integrifolium) by @tararat in McLean County:

Dewy white wild indigo (Baptisia alba) by @skrentnyjeff in Cook County:

Small white lady's slippers (Cypripedium candidum) by @andrewhipp in DuPage County:

Help Identify

As always, please help your fellow botanists, when yr able, to identify/confirm their observations. There are almost 24,000 observations in 2019 that qualify for the project, but haven't been IDed or confirmed yet. Try sorting by "new users" or "random" to mix it up!

New to Illinois on iNat

And keep an eye on these links below for any new documentations in 2019. I commented on a few new ones that folks like @andrewhipp @dziomber @elfaulkner @illinois_joy @johnhboldt @johnlseale @kkucera @lucydugan @owenkathriner @prairiehobbit @sanguinaria33 @sedge @ty-sharrow and @wildlandblogger have found since our last update. Great work!
由使用者 bouteloua bouteloua2019年06月29日 17:00 所貼文 | 1 評論 | 留下評論

2019年06月08日

New mascot for the ILBBY

We've got a new mascot for the Illinois Botanists Big Year.

Thanks to Kathleen Marie Garness (@kathleen88) for the use of her illustration of Carex buxbaumii, and to Vanessa Voelker (@vvoelker) for the reference photo from which it was drawn!

Why Carex buxbaumii? IDK, I like it. It's usually found in really nice areas. And its one of the prettiest and most easily identifiable sedges. :)

由使用者 bouteloua bouteloua2019年06月08日 04:56 所貼文 | 1 評論 | 留下評論

2019年05月21日

May Showers, May Flowers — Illinois Botanists Big Year Update

Stats

It's May 21st and the ILBBY 2019's got:


990 observers (+635)
13376 research grade observations of plants (+9289)
830 species (+282)
518 identifiers (+282)

We had a big ol' bump in activity from the City Nature Challenge 2019, a long weekend in the Chicago region during which 346 users made 8024 observations of 1048 species of plants, animals, fungi, and other creatures. Despite it SNOWING one of the days I think this was a pretty good showing. :) More stats on the global City Nature Challenge and St. Louis Metro challenge.

New to following the ILBBY project are @juliebags and @observer26. Welcome! New to observing plants in Illinois are @timfelinski0251, @benb @owenkathriner, @rrm4649, @marinegardener, @whvoss, @jbllak, @goldfink, @kimberly236, @bengreenfield1, @kimberlycurtis, and @hannasowden, among others! If you want to stay apprised of Illinois Botanists Big Year updates, you can join the project here.

Since last month's update, four more botanizers have observed over 100 species of plants in Illinois this year. Great efforts by @sedge, @taco2000, @andrewhipp, and @jakeskee! Jared Gorrell (@wildlandblogger) is still in the lead of this friendly competition with 420 species.

The top-observed species swapped from spring beauty (Claytonia virginica) to prairie trillium (Trillium recurvatum) as the former has faded from bloom and the latter's deep red flowers speckle woodland understories. My favorite little umbrellas-of-the-woods, Podophyllum peltatum are second-most observed, and hard-to-not-photograph bluebells (Mertensia virginica) joined the leaderboard in May too.

Plant Pic Picks

Don't forget to favorite observations to highlight good photos or cool finds!

A very nice white trout lily (Erythronium albidum) by @jingyilu in Chicago.

Bright copper iris (Iris fulva) by @grantfessler in Union County

Poster child for urban nature and the City Nature Challenge, this boxelder (Acer negundo) by @dbild in Chicago.

Golden marsh marigolds (Caltha palustris) by @mccrea in DeKalb County.

Wee false mermaidweed (Floerkea proserpinacoides) by @kkucera in northern Cook County.

Help Identify

As always, please help your fellow botanists, when yr able, to identify/confirm their observations. There are over 10,000 observations in 2019 alone that qualify for the project, but haven't been IDed or confirmed yet. Try sorting by random to mix it up!

New to Illinois on iNat

And keep an eye on these links for any new documentations in 2019. I commented on a few that folks like @lucydugan, @maryjoyce, @sedge, and @wildlandblogger have found!
由使用者 bouteloua bouteloua2019年05月21日 15:50 所貼文 | 0 評論 | 留下評論